In conversation with Christian Egger, the Vienna-based artist Ulrikrike Königshofer (born in Koglhof in Styria) talks about her current exhibition Dinge, die andere Dinge sind and discusses her empirical investigative approach to art, analyzing the triadic relationship between the artistic object, the viewer’s perception, and the artist’s own point of departure in artistic production. Besides, the seventh edition of the accompanying fanzine series will be presented.